Psalm 109 – How to interpret it

Help Me, O Lord My God

To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David.

109 Be not silent, O God of my praise!
For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me,
    speaking against me with lying tongues.
They encircle me with words of hate,
    and attack me without cause.
In return for my love they accuse me,
    but I give myself to prayer.[a]
So they reward me evil for good,
    and hatred for my love.


The following quoted part of the Psalm is actually what David’s accuser says against him!


 

Appoint a wicked man against him;
    let an accuser stand at his right hand.
When he is tried, let him come forth guilty;
    let his prayer be counted as sin!
May his days be few;
    may another take his office!
May his children be fatherless
    and his wife a widow!
10 May his children wander about and beg,
    seeking food far from the ruins they inhabit!
11 May the creditor seize all that he has;
    may strangers plunder the fruits of his toil!
12 Let there be none to extend kindness to him,
    nor any to pity his fatherless children!
13 May his posterity be cut off;
    may his name be blotted out in the second generation!
14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord,
    and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out!
15 Let them be before the Lord continually,
    that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth!

16 For he did not remember to show kindness,
    but pursued the poor and needy
    and the brokenhearted, to put them to death.
17 He loved to curse; let curses come[b] upon him!
    He did not delight in blessing; may it be far[c] from him!
18 He clothed himself with cursing as his coat;
    may it soak[d] into his body like water,
    like oil into his bones!
19 May it be like a garment that he wraps around him,
    like a belt that he puts on every day!
20 May this be the reward of my accusers from the Lord,
    of those who speak evil against my life!

21 But you, O God my Lord,
    deal on my behalf for your name’s sake;
    because your steadfast love is good, deliver me!
22 For I am poor and needy,
    and my heart is stricken within me.
23 I am gone like a shadow at evening;
    I am shaken off like a locust.
24 My knees are weak through fasting;
    my body has become gaunt, with no fat.
25 I am an object of scorn to my accusers;
    when they see me, they wag their heads.

26 Help me, O Lord my God!
    Save me according to your steadfast love!
27 Let them know that this is your hand;
    you, O Lord, have done it!
28 Let them curse, but you will bless!
    They arise and are put to shame, but your servant will be glad!
29 May my accusers be clothed with dishonor;
    may they be wrapped in their own shame as in a cloak!

30 With my mouth I will give great thanks to the Lord;
    I will praise him in the midst of the throng.
31 For he stands at the right hand of the needy one,
    to save him from those who condemn his soul to death.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/psalms/109.html

Use Words Wisely

Look at what scripture teaches about how we use our words: https://www.openbible.info/topics/words

For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

Whoever guards his mouth preserves his life; he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

On the day of Judgement, ALL will be judged for every harsh, uncaring word they speak! With the advent of social media, it’s easy to get into anger and say angry things to strangers! Our words have power!

Therefore, be careful what you speak and type. Amen.

Clean Animals

Yep:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+11&version=ESV

MEATS THAT ARE GOOD TO EAT

Clean Land Animals

Antelope – Buffalo – Caribou – Cattle (Beef, Veal) – Deer – Elk – Gazelle – Giraffe – Goat – Hart – Ibex – Moose – Ox – Reindeer – Sheep

Clean Birds

Chicken – Dove – Duck – Goose – Grouse – Guinea fowl – Partridge – Peafowl – Pheasant – Pigeon – Prairie chicken – Ptarmigan – Quail – Sagehen – Sparrow (plus any other songbirds) – Swan – Teal – Turkey

Insects

Clean insects include types of locusts that may include crickets and grasshoppers

Clean Fish

Albacore (Crevalle, Horse Mackerel, Jack) – Alewives (Branch, River Herring) – Anchovy – Barracuda – Bass – Black Drum – Black Pomfret (Monchong) – Blue Runner (Hardtail) – Bluebacks (Glut Herrings) – Bluebill Sunfish – Bluefish – Bluegill – Bonitos – Bowfin – Buffalofish – Carp – Chubs (Bloater, Longjaw, Blackfin) – Cod – Common Sucker (Fresh Water Mullet, White Sucker) – Crappie (Black or White Crappies) – Drum – Flounder (Dab, Gray, Lemon Sole, Summer – Grouper (Black, Nassau, Red, or Yellowfish Grouper, Gag) – Grunt (White / Yellow Grunts) – Gulf Pike (Robalo, Snook, Sergeant) – Haddock – Hake – Halibut – Hardhead – Hardtail (Blue Runner) – Herring (Alewife, Branch, Glut. Lake, River, Sea Herrings) – Kingfish – Long Nose Sucker (Northern or Red Striped Sucker) – Mackerel (Cobia) – Mahimahi (Dorado, Dolphinfish) – Menhaden – Minnow – Mullet – Muskellunge (Jacks) – Orange Roughy – Perch (Bream) – Pig Fish – Pike (Pickerel, Jack) – Pollack (Pollock, Boston Bluefish) – Pompano – Porgy (Scup) – Red Drum (Redfish) – Red Horse Sucker (Redfin) – Red Snapper – Redfish – Robalo (Gulf Pike) – Rockfish – Salmon (Chum, Coho, King, Pink or Red) – Sardine (Pilchard) – Scup (Porgy) – Sea Bass – Sergeant Fish (Gulf Pike) – Shad – Sheepshead – Silver Hake (Whiting) – Silversides – Smelt – Snapper – Snook (Gulf Pike) – Sole – Spanish Mackerel – Steelhead – Striped Bass – Sucker (Red Horse Sucker, Redfin) – Sunfish – Tarpon – Trout (Gray Sea, Lake, Sand Sea, White Sea, Spotted Sea Trouts, Weakfish) – Tuna – Turbot (all except European variety) – Whitefish – Whiting (Silver Hake) – Winter Flounder, Yellow Tail – Yellow Perch

MEATS THAT ARE NOT GOOD TO EAT

Unclean Land Animals

Armadillo – Ass – Badger – Bear – Beaver – Boar – Camel – Cat – Cheetah – Coyote – Dog – Donkey – Elephant – Fox – Gorilla – Groundhog – Hare – Hippopotamus – Horse – Hyena – Jackal – Kangaroo – Leopard – Lion – Llama (alpaca, vicuña) – Mole – Monkey – Mouse – Mule – Muskrat – Onager – Opossum – Panther – Peccary – Pig (hog, bacon, ham, lard, pork) – Porcupine – Rabbit – Raccoon – Rat – Rhinoceros – Skunk – Slug – Snail (escargot) – Squirrel – Tiger – Wallaby – Weasel – Wolf – Wolverine – Worm – Zebra

Unclean Birds

Albatross – Bat – Bittern – Buzzard – Condor – Coot – Cormorant – Crane – Crow – Cuckoo – Eagle – Flamingo – Grebe – Grosbeak – Gull – Hawk – Heron – Kite – Lapwing – Loon – Magpie – Osprey – Ostrich – Owl – Parrot – Pelican – Penguin – Plover – Rail – Raven – Roadrunner- Sandpiper – Seagull – Stork – Swallow – Swift – Vulture – Water Hen – Woodpecker

Insects

All insects except some in the locust family should not be consumed.

Unclean Reptiles and Amphibians

Alligator – Blindworm – Caiman – Crocodile – Frogs – Lizard – Newts – Salamanders – Snakes – Toads – Turtles

Unclean Fish and Marine Animals

Abalone – Bullhead – Catfish – Clam – Crab – Crayfish – Cuttlefish – Dolphin – Eel – European Turbot – Jellyfish – Limpet – Lobsters – Marlin – Mussels – Octopus – Otter – Oysters – Paddlefish – Porpoise – Prawn – Scallop – Seal – Shark – Shrimp – Squid (calamari) – Stickleback – Sturgeon – Swordfish – Walrus – Whale

Edit source for the specific list.

Plagues of Egypt

The 10 Plagues in Exodus are all attacks on Egyptian gods. For example, turning the Nile to blood: The Nile was a god to the Egyptians, and then turning it to blood was imagery of killing said god. Frogs were also considered gods, and when frogs were going flipping everywhere (plague 6 or something), Egyptians would be horrified to step on one of their gods. Similar to the Nile, when God cast darkness upon Egypt, it was like killing the sun (Egyptian god Ra).

So it was really big that God asked the Jews to slaughter a lamb at the first Passover. The lamb was an Egyptian god. God said “Kill this animal that Egyptians consider a god, and paint your door posts with its blood”–and everyone knew that the penalty would be death. So God was basically telling them to risk their lives to trust that He would deliver them.

Edit: Frogs were the second plague. Thanks to all who commented so I could be lazy and not Google it : )

Edit: so if I had known that this post was going to hit 10k+, I might’ve used clearer language. Some of the Plagues dealt with animals which symbolized Egyptian gods (ex. Frogs, lambs). Others attacked the powers of Egyptian gods (your god can cure boils? Well I hope he can because you all have them now). The last plague involved killing a lamb, which symbolized, I believe, an Egyptian fertility god, and also directly struck Pharoah, who was considered a god, by killing his son. Thank you all for great discussion, and the privilege of this post getting 10k+ ratings : )


This is a popular pseudo-scholarly explanation of the plagues I see repeated all the time, but it is not widely held by scholars. Rather, the plagues are seen as closely corresponding to the curses described by Assyrian vassal-treaties. They threaten disease, darkness, death of offspring, locusts, floods, death without proper burial, poisonous drinking water, fire, lice, etc. against nations who break their treaty with Assyria. Elsewhere, the Pentateuch uses vassal treaty language to express the relationship between Israel and yahweh.

What is something most people don’t know about the Bible? from AskReddit

Matthew 7:21 – Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven

I Never Knew You

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

There are a few things to note here. The most important thing is that Jesus is talking about false-believers who are trusting in their works to get to heaven. This can be understood when we see what “The will of my Father” is, which is to believe in Jesus for your forgiveness of sins and your righteousness, as seen in John 6:40.

Jesus saying “I never knew you” denotes a lack of relationship with Jesus, his spirit was never inside of them. When he calls them “workers of lawlessness” he’s pointing out that even our best works are sin-stained.

Why Lordship Salvation is not Biblical

http://www.preachingjesuschrist.com/why-lordship-salvation-is-not-biblical.html

Why Lordship Salvation is not Biblical

The other side…

I used to consider myself a lordship salvation-ist until I realized that salvation is by faith alone through grace alone, not by works.
Submitting to the Lord essentially is a work, something WE DO to EARN salvation! Through this belief, one can never have assurance of their salvation because one can never know when or how they earned it!
I know they are a lot of well meaning Christians who believe it… but if that were the case then how did the thief on the cross get saved? Did he submit to Jesus as Lord by simply acknowledging him in his final moments? In that case, the meaning of ‘submitting as Lord’ becomes almost meaningless because it doesn’t require anything other than a simple acknowledgement. If it’s more than a simple acknowledgement.. then deathbed conversions become impossible!
I believe Lordship salvation may have been created to combat the idea that the carnal Christian is saved, but to attribute our salvation to anything but Jesus blood atonement is wrong! The gospel is so simple even a child is supposed to be able to understand it, another point against Lordship salvation, if intellectual giants like RC Sproul can’t figure out how to have assurance of their salvation, who can?
https://faithalone.org/journal/1997ii/Wilkin.html <– contains RC Sproul quote that he can not be certain about salvation
I believe a Christian can only lose their salvation if they choose to! <– my own belief
I believe people like Francis Chan, while good speakers, cheapen the gospel by saying you have to be some SUPER CHRISTIAN in order to be saved, like he does in his book Crazy Love.
[James 4:4] –  You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
This is why anyone who is popular in the world needs to be under a microscope! For example popular people like Billy Graham, compromised the Gospel message to define all religious people as Christs people.. whether they knew him or not!
Here’s a good video on Billy Graham:
 
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Now, let’s take a look on where I disagree with Calvinism. 
 
T – total depravity – means man is so deprived that he doesn’t have the free-will to choose God or not to choose him!
 
I don’t believe this, I believe we all have free will to choose God or not choose him! Just because God knows the answer ahead of time doesn’t mean we don’t freely choose him or not! It’s also an assault on God’s character… is he so cruel to predestine people to hell, or is it their own rejection of God that sends them to hell? The Calvinist believes God predestines people to heaven and hell, and that there’s nothing they can do about it! I think God gives people a choice, but he knows the answer ahead of time. 
 
U – unconditional election –  same problem
 
L – limited atonement – same problem
 
I – irresistible grace  – Essentially says that God forces himself on people and when he does, they can not refuse him! Essentially this boils down to spiritual rape, which seems like another assault on God’s character. God gives us the ability to choose to love him or not!
 
P – perseverance of the saints – I can kind of agree with this, the problem is that it assumes those who choose to leave the body of Christ were never Christians to begin with! I believe you are saved, unless you choose not to be ie: you are saved unless you walk away from the Church/faith/denounce Christianity and become an atheist. They would argue that person was never a Christian to begin with!
 
If you want 2 good critiques of calvinism I would look here
 
 
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqpa4SaHBxg&t=2139s – Why I am not a Calvinist by Robert Breaker
 
 
As always, let me know if you disagree with anything I am saying. I know that our Church and reformed theology may lean towards Calvinism and Lordship salvation. I believed in Lordship salvation until I realized it offers no assurance of salvation! 
 
The gospel message is simple, and we humans try to over-complicate things: 
 
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4 English Standard Version (ESV)

The Resurrection of Christ

15 Now I would remind you, brothers,[a] of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.

For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,

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Romans 10:9 English Standard Version (ESV)

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

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For God So Loved the World

16 “For God so loved the world,[a] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

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The only thing we can do to be saved is to believe in Jesus blood atonement for our sins, past, present, and future! If you confess Jesus is Lord, and believe God raised him from the dead, you will be saved! To believe otherwise is to disbelieve God!
 
Before I end this, let’s look at the scary scripture in the bible, which is verse 21 on, but I am quoting the full context of the verse because it’s important.

A Tree and its Fruit
(Matthew 12:33-37; Luke 6:43-45)

15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’

This verse is not supporting Lordship salvation! Rather, the opposite. Those who lack a relationship with Jesus and trusted in their works are being denied salvation here. 

 
As always, try not to blindly follow but develop your own opinion. If you think you convince me on either I am open to think about it.
 
In Him,
 
P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpin_ZqIQO0

Medical evidence that the Bible is supernaturally inspired!

In numerous instances the Bible contains medical information that far predates man’s actual discoveries of related principles in the field of medicine. The medical instructions given by Moses to the Israelites some 3500 years ago were not only far superior to the practices of contemporary cultures, they also exceeded medical standards practiced as recently as 100 years ago. Where did Moses get this advanced information? Following are some examples of the medical knowledge afforded the Israelites in biblical times:

Sanitary Practices

For centuries doctors denied the possibility that disease could be transmitted by invisible agents. However, in the late 19th century Louis Pasteur demonstrated in his Germ Theory of Disease that most infectious diseases were caused by microorganisms originating from outside the body. This new understanding of germs and their means of transmission led to improved sanitary standards that resulted in an enormous drop in the mortality rate. Yet these core principles of sanitation were being practiced by the Israelites thousands of years earlier.

The Israelites were instructed to wash themselves and their clothes in running water if they had a bodily discharge, if they came in contact with another person’s discharge, or if they had touched a dead human or animal carcass. They were also instructed to wash any uncoveredvessels that were in the vicinity of a dead body, and if a dead carcass touched a vessel it was to be destroyed. Items recovered during war were also to be purified through either fire or running water. In addition, the Israelites were instructed to bury their human waste outside of camp, and to burn the waste of their animals (See Numbers 19:3-22Lev. 11:1-4715:1-33Deut 23:12).

These sanitary practices without question saved countless lives in the Israelite camps by protecting them against infection caused by unseen germs. Meanwhile, their Egyptian peers were dying by the thousands due to “remedies” that almost always consisted of some amount of human or animal dung1. As mentioned earlier, the sound sanitary practices that we take for granted today only began to flourish about a 100 years ago.

Bacteria

Some time after I wrote these web pages, a Bible skeptic unwittingly showed me yet another example of advanced scientific/medical knowledge in the Bible. He posted a message on a discussion board that ridiculed some verses in Leviticus 13 and 14 that mention leprosy on walls and on garments. He felt this was silly and an error since leprosy is a human disease. What this skeptic was unaware of is the fact that leprosy is a bacteria, a living organism, that certainly can survive on walls and garments! In fact, the Medic-Planet.com encyclopedia noted that leprosy “can survive three weeks or longer outside the human body, such as in dust or on clothing2. It is no wonder that God commanded the Levitical priests to burn the garments of leprosy victims! (Leviticus 13:52)

Laws of Quarantine

In the same Med-Planet encyclopedia cited above we read that “It was not until 1873 that leprosy could be shown to be infectious rather than hereditary.2 Of course God knew this all along, as His laws to Moses reveal (Leviticus 13, 14, 22Numbers 19:20). His instructions regarding quarantine to prevent the spread of leprosy and other infectious diseases arenothing short of remarkable, considering that this life-saving practice was several thousand years ahead of its time. Infected persons were instructed to isolate themselves outside the camp until healed, and were to shave and wash thoroughly. The priests that administered care were instructed to change their clothes and wash thoroughly after inspecting a plague victim.

It should be re-emphasized that the Israelites were the only culture to practice quarantine until the last century, when medical advances finally demonstrated the importance of sanitation and isolation during plagues. The devastating black plague of the 14th century that claimed millions of lives was not broken until the church fathers in Vienna began encouraging the public to start following the guidelines as set forth in the Bible. The promising results in Vienna compelled other cities to follow suit, and the dreaded plague was finally eradicated3.

The First Antiseptic

Hyssop oil was charged by God to Moses to be used as a purifying agent. Hyssop oil has been shown to contain 50% antifungal and antibacterial agents (Numbers 19:18Psalm 51:7).

Circumcision and Blood Clotting

For centuries scholars must have been perplexed by God’s law of circumcision which required the procedure to be performed on the 8th day after birth (Gen 17:1221:14Lev 12:3Luke 2:21). Medical researchers recently discovered that the two main blood clotting factors, Vitamin K and Prothrombim, reach their highest level in life, about 110% of normal, on the 8th day after birth. These blood clotting agents facilitate rapid healing and greatly reduce the chance of infection. You can verify with any Obstetrician that the 8th day of life is the ideal time for a circumcision, and that any circumcision done earlier requires an injection of Vitamin K supplement.

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome

The earliest recorded observation of the link between alcohol use and harm to the fetus was made by prison physician Dr. William Sullivan in 18994, after he noted that higher rates of stillbirth was occurring in alcoholic female prisoners. The first journal paper on the link between alcohol and harm to a fetus or FAS (Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) was published in 19685. The syndrome was officially identified and named in a 1973 paper by Drs. Kenneth Lyons Jones and David Weyhe Smith of the University of Washington Medical School6. Yet this knowledge was already conveyed in the Bible long ago, when Samson’s mother was told to avoid alcohol when she was pregnant with Samson (Judges 13:3-4).

Dietary Guidelines

By the 1980s, all the health organizations of the United States had adopted low-fat, high fiber dietary guidelines.  This was the culmination of numerous scientific studies that had demonstrated that diets high in vegetables, fruits, and grains reduced the risk of heart disease, cancer, and many other diseases.  Secular physicians generally agree that these dietary guidelines that were producing longer life spans were first developed by religious movements founded in the 1800s, particularly by the Seventh-day Adventists.  Where did the Seventh-day Adventists get their guidelines?   From a meticulous and careful study of the Bible7.  It appears man has finally caught up to the dietary recommendations given by God to the Israelites some 3500 years ago!

 

Is My Child In Heaven?

Yes, there are even scriptures in the bible to sort of support the idea your child is in heaven.

[Matthew 18:3 ESV] [Matthew 19:14] [Mark 9:37 ESV] [Mark 10:14-15 ESV]

Children will not be in heaven because they are innocent. Paul taught clearly that children are born under condemnation of Adam’s sin (Rom. 5:12) . . . . If children are saved (and I believe they shall be) it can only be because God credits their sin to Christ; and because they are too young to believe, the requirement of personal faith is waived. The clear teaching of the Bible is that the souls of those children who die before they reach the age of understanding and responsibility are taken to the New Jerusalem with Christ to live joyfully with Him until the day of resurrection when they shall receive their own immortal body fit for eternity. I believe the Bible shows us that children will be in heaven. —GRANT JEFFREY

Wiese, Bill. 23 Minutes In Hell: One Man’s Story About What He Saw, Heard, and Felt in That Place of Torment (p. 112). Charisma House. Kindle Edition.

Highest form of God’s wrath on Earth

The highest form of God’s wrath on Earth is God removing his restraining hand from a person and allowing them to sin all they want to, essentially sending them to hell. We get this from Romans 1.

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.32 Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.